. >> so, again, just context for our viewers that was paul ryan, this is a speech from last november. the whole speech has been on youtube since last fall. so my question to you, howie kurtz, are there really substantive points to be scored here by drudging up these all videos? >> there can be. i don't have any problem with it, people on either side drudging up old videos. it helps if the video you're drudging up has never been seen or heard before, then it has some shock value. there can be substantive and revealing comments in what people say when they think the spotlight is not on them. but in the case of this particular obama speech at hampton university in virginia in 2007, he delivered it in front of a bunch of reporters. cameras there. the surprise factor has been lost here. >> you covered the media. as we mentioned it right wing radio, right wing conservative television today, pointing at the -- it is the mainstream media, this is all the mainstream media, my question is, their ratings are high, they bring in the big bucks, aren't they mainstream media too? when does that narr